Talk:Grapple/@comment-24634511-20190910183559/@comment-24634511-20190912072530

I don't think it's core strength because there's a huge increase with carnation compared to rusted sword - if weapon power wasn't a factor it would be the same increase I think.

I'll try and check with a lower level character against something with higer defense - maybe Saurian Sage - see if that shows anything