Talk:Grigori/@comment-202.188.45.98-20130918124315

I'm not sure how the trivia figures the Dragonforged was the Arisen before Sofiah; he specifically mentions his "battle has lasted a thousand years". Granted, perhaps there WAS no Arisen for all that period of time. I haven't uncovered the BBI lore yet, so I don't know how the other Arisen fit into the timeline.

I can agree with Savan being the earliest KNOWN Arisen, as he is the current Seneschal. However, he can't be the first Arisen ever, assuming that things were always as they are, so obviously he must've become the Senseschal by beating a previous one.

This is all assuming the dragon needs to be killed to access the Everfall fully, which in turn provides the only way to reach the current Seneschal.