Talk:Barroch/@comment-7288461-20130612181245

In regards to the potential 'stock update via completing Quests' theory, the Quests I completed before Barroch's first update (those listed above as BBI Stage 2) were: Dousing the Blight, A Guiding Light, Slumbering Promise, Visions of the End I, An Unseen Rival I and Eyes of the Deep. Barroch did not have the items in question in his inventory after I'd completed the first 4 of those (when I met him in The Warriors' Respite), but did after the 6 were completed. Of course collecting an Abyssal Eye relates directly to having defeated the Gazer anyway...

Personally I think that a Stock update as a result of completing non-essential Quests is a bit too random to be plausible, though by no means can I prove for certain that this is the case at current. All Stock updates in the main game happen due to Stage progression (aside from Idol or Affinity related stuff, both of which we know not to be the case here), so to me that seems the most logical explanation of what happens in BBI too.

Furthering the possibility of defeating the Gazer completing 'BBI Stage 1', this is when Barroch moves from his position at Duskmoon Tower, plus Olra gets a small cut-scene when you first talk to her after it, both of which would be indicative of stage progression in the main game. Perhaps most notably however is that the Shrine of Futile Truths/Corridor of Emptiness are the final locations within the 'Upper Level' of BBI (does the game use the term 'Upper Stratum' or something? I can't remember...). On moving into the Fortress of Remembrance, you start the 'Middle Level', thus completing the 'Upper Level' would again make sense as a Stage completion point.