Talk:Daimon/@comment-27934358-20160316174052/@comment-28736685-20160623131621

@Trollsin,

I've also use the same technique,but different a little.

I take a group with Ranger Arisen and Sorcerer MP.

First Form:Grapple his head and use Great Gamble(Lol,easy enough to kill him with GG).Then if he is still undefeated,used the same technique,I kill him in only 1 minue(Because of the charge time for GG)

Second Form:Try to get safer place(The vack of the columns/pillars).Then use Tenfold Flurry at his chest's head(Use after using Liquid Vim is better).Let your MP charge any strong spells(Bolide?Gicel?Fulmination?)and use GG(If you like and has high Strength)

One more,

1.Try to defeat him without using Strong Weapon(Not too weak such as Scalding Razors)

2.Dont't bring any Pawns

3.Use no skills(Very challenging)

Do at Hard Mode

Note that it is mpossible to killed Online/Offline Ur-Dragon with Jon and me ideas.