Talk:Knockdown/@comment-33780977-20190623171113

I am always, like ALWAYS, happy to discuss "stuff".

I've been focusing on Gorecyclopes lately and stagger/knockdown research was just the part of the project, still I framed my research as a rule (then noticed how it is too specific and corrected it after brief discussion ;).

Now, here's here's how the rule applies to various enemies. The case with weak spots is that they all definitely have lower resistances, including stagger/knockdown resistances as with all of the enemies simply hacking weak spots will result in stagger and then, with many, knockdown. It may be that absolutely OP setup might do to other body parts what can be done using weak spots, but i've been using near OP setup (2x Barbed nails, gold lv 1 weapons and Impact) and don't think so.

In detail, I can confirm that staggering the Armored/Condemned Gorecyclops leg (which is rare and hard to achieve) by attacking its leg (with a sword, it's even harder to do with bows) and then attacking other leg won't result in knockdown. I suppose these are treated as one body part. Now, one may argue that I may have had low s/k power, but I think that if a single Burt Strike on Gold Carnation works with eye type of stagger and spamming this doesn't work with leg stagger, then nothing will work.

And I even tried the same test for the eye (shots). Shot the eye, it started heavy Blinded routine, I stuck whole Deathly Arrorw in the eye (and one more to the teeth) and it didn't even blink, while hitting the head beyond the eye staggers it...out of stagger. Hitting left arm, twice, did nothing. Hitting right arm disarmed it, as expected.

Gorecyclops isn't unique here, dragons are the same (and I think Chimera, except it has no real weak spots). While with majority of other enemies spamming attacks on a weak spot works best.

Summary In the "attack different body part" club are: Chimeras, all dragons, all cyclopes. That's often.

In the "spam attacks at the weak spot" club are: all lesser enemies, Evil eyes, brutes and Ogres. And, probably, Daimon. That's a majority.

In the "that's complicated" club are Griffin and Cockatrice. And Golem