Talk:Dragon's Dogma World and Lore/@comment-47.20.21.200-20160131022818/@comment-113.22.123.215-20160202180538

The cycle has repeated itself endlessly, so that means th ere should have been countless great dragons before Grigori. The dragon that Godking Leonart slew was the first one recorded, not the first one ever. Savan has been Seneschal for a LONG time, enough for him to call it an 'eternity', and surely enough for any trace of him to be erased from the history books by the time of the Newly Arisen. It's very likely that Savan predates even Godking Leonart, given the fact that there are absolutely no mention of him until you actually fight him.

Sofiah is a difficult case, since she died of old age that means she must be Arisen before the Dragonforged. But no one knows if she declined the Seneschal's offer, or someone else defeated her Dragon.

The Arisens on BBI are all from different worlds, Barroch's Dragon is NOT Grigori, it's a completely different dragon altogether, same with Olra. That's why they don't age at all after you kill Grigori, because they have absolutely no connection to him.