Talk:Arisen/@comment-67.236.234.253-20140325091947

As it seems fools are still trying to figure this out, let me throw in an extra slice of information that your eyes were not keen enough to catch upon.

The current Dragon is named "Grigori". The dragon is a fallen Arisen, one who defeated the dragon but failed to defeat the Seneschal. Supposedly, the creature keeps the name of the Arisen, thus making Grigori an Arisen that failed to defeat the Seneschal.

Add this information in and one must understand that another Arisen exists between Savan and the Player. Were your guesses of Grette coming after Savan true, it would mean that Grette was defeated by someone eventually. Due to the list shown, none of the known Arisen defeated a dragon thus we could assume Grigori came after Ashe, defeated Grette and was defeated by Savan. This is logical. There is no proof to say that Grigori is the common name given to all dragons and were this the truth and all dragons were named such, the dragon you're facing now would be Grette.

Another notion to keep in mind is that Godking Leonart is the only known Arisen to fell the dragon before Edmun Dragonsbane. Tis curious as we all are very aware that Savan succeeded. This is not key information but I detest false kings; Leonart failed to defeat the dragon and took its bargain. Down with false kings.

Leonart (failed against Dragon) > Sofiah (never fought dragon) > Savan > (defeated all) > Grette (failed against Seneschal [Savan?]) > Ashe (failed against Dragon [Note: He has killed many Arisen since, as shown by Bitterblack Isle's fallen population]) > Grigori (slayed Grette, failed against Seneschal) > Dragonforged (first to lose to Grigori, due to being the oldest "living" Arisen) > Athacos & Barroch (possibly, however defeating dragon does not effect them, making it questionable if they belong in this time line.) > Duke Edmun Dragonsbane (failed against Dragon) > The Player (Defeats Seneschal)