Talk:Poisoned Undead/@comment-13763093-20130803235051/@comment-13763093-20130822073351

Are you talking about using shield storm vs banshees or poisoned undead? At any rate, I've done that as well. I've lowered strength on both w/ dragon's roost, I've lowered defense on poisoned undead and I THINK I have as well as on banshees but it's hard to tell because I'm level 200 and they go down too quick for it to register most of the time.

I've also used golden/aneled  bardiches and poisoned daggers/bows on both triggering debilitations umpteen times. The only thing I can think of is it has something to do w/ perfect blocking the P.U. when it charges (which is something I rarely see it do), or kill count. I'm at 212 for P.U. and 234 for banshees.