Talk:Arisen/@comment-24524001-20140210182730

It's rather obvious that Savan was the Arisen before the Dragonforged - at least THIS one. However, why do I feel that the assumption is that Savan lived in the same world as Arisen and not some kind of earlier version of the world, that supposedly begins and ends over and over again?

I don't know how it is with others, but from what Seneschal said at the end, I've concluded that we have to think about this whole infinite cycle pretty literally and just as people and beasts die and are reborn, so is the entire world eventually, only for the story to repeat itself fairly closely.

Hence, Savan might as well had seen the world end and begin anew at least once, if not a few times already (if the previous worlds didn't produce a soul willful enough to defeat the dragon and then challenge the Seneschal).

That would make Savan definitely MUCH older than the current Dragonforged (or anything in existence), but it might be that in the world from the previous cycle there might have lived another, similar Dragonforged who guided Savan in his journey.... It's not as complicated as it seems! :D

In fact, i would also explain why there were different/easier beasts in the Tainted Mountain at the beginning of the game (although, in all fairness, it was also for gameplay reasons) to not mention that it would make Dragonforged's speculated connection to that place much less of a mess - after all, if Savan predates the Dragonforged, but still lived in the *current* world, the Tainted Mountain (or at least the temple/civilization there) shouldn't have existed in his time.

Besides - isn't the offline NG+ encounter kind of telling as well? When it comes to me, I always envision that the world goes its course after the finale (as long as the player continues their NG+ playthroughs THEIR 'worlds' continue the cycle as well - hence 'the ever-turning wheel' trophy we get), ends and begins anew and the story repeats itself yet again in a world that closely resembles the previous one. That does makes this whole 'cruel infinite cycle' thing quite dire indeed.

Although... to humor myself I also imagine that every time I die and have to retry or godsbane myself the same thing happens as well - the world goes furher, ends, is reborn and then the whole story repeats itself up until the next time we have to rertry/godsbane ourselves. For some reason I find this hilarious.