Talk:Elder Ogre/@comment-174.250.112.32-20130529230028/@comment-64.218.175.220-20130530210743

if not using a bow class for the sleeper arrows, improving your stagger/knockdown output with stacked barbed nails and tormentor helm will help warrior and fighter types. I don't know anyone who actually plays a mage on BBI, but sorc's high maelstrom does the trick.