Talk:Eliminator/@comment-24.255.30.38-20160131035158/@comment-12.130.180.88-20160211184632

Hmm...well I gave up on ice after my aforementioned xp with it, and I've always used thunder since. I'll have to give ice another shot now lol. You certainly tell it true when it comes to Richochet Hunter. It wrecks anything in tight spaces. You can kill both LA's in the Catacombs for the Unseen Rival quest line with 3-5 RH shots without even buffing your magick if you have BB gear lol, and they aren't even weak to thunder but rather holy.

However, I find your comparison of Frigor to Levin to be fallacious. They simply aren't the same "level" of spell power-wise. The basic spells for Mage/Sorcerer are Ingle/Frazil/Levin for fire, ice, and thunder respectively. Then the next level in terms of pure damage potential is Comestation, Frigor, and BRONTIDE for thunder. Then you have the Sorcerer only top tier spells Bolide, Gicel, and Fulmination. In order to get a real comparison, you'd have to compare Frigor with Brontide, not Levin. Levin is more comparable to Frazil in damage potential, not Frigor. Comparing Levin to Frigor is like comparing Dragon's Blink to Revenant Wail imo. It's just in another class altogether. I suspect Brontide woild kill them as fast as Frigor, albeit without the knockdown effect. I'll wager Brontide can stagger-lock them though.

That said, I'ma have to try out ice again for myself now. Fortunately, I just started a Pre-D run last night as a MK. I've always used thunder trance on the Eliminators as a MK, but I'll use ice trance this time & see how that goes with cannons/sigils. Should be a great way to see for sure as I'll be using the same skills against them all, but just different elemental enchantments. In fact, because of that it's probabaly even better that testing Frigor vs Brontide because they are still different spells. I'll be using Great Cannon/Ruinous Sigil in all cases, so it's a more pure comparison of just the elemental effects.