Talk:Arisen/@comment-37224224-20181017213501/@comment-33780977-20181102201319

K

'but Bitterblack Isle appears from nowhere - it's not a permanent fixture - it's a "ghost island" - I thought it was stated somewhere that the island is created from daimon's memories of the old world he came from .. but is not the actual place - '

1. It is "implied" that this is a place from Ashe's dreams.

2.

Proof 1: What the Pawns say about the Isle, you can check it yourselves, you've got Pawns ;)

Proof 2: DLC intro clearly shows the Arisen and the party disembarking the boat. And why would there be a pier at BBI in the first place?

K, so far the Isle may just be a Daimon's creation just set at the Cassardi sea, but...

Proof 3: There is Brine at the Isle...not everywhere mind you, but it is. There are also Riftstones, destroyed by ...someone, maybe Ashe-Daimon? Now, why would Daimon create Riftstones in the first place?

Proof 4: ...DLC content usually appears from nowhere and confuses the vanilla content ;) Idk if anyone knows Gothic II and Night of The Raven expansion, this may be such case. But that's just outer-game argument.

Savan/Dragonforged - Already explained the most logical conclusion 

And I stated it's missing the main point. The Dragonforged can't be the relic of the ancient past cause he was made Arisen by the present Dragon, Grigori. He lived during the reign of Godking Leonart and Duke Edmun (hell, he can even come from Cassardis, his clothes fit there), he suppose to be using present day armaments (he definitely uses the modern day shield), but again that's not the main issue.

And the main issue is

The Dragonforged totally took the bargain. Since both Beast and Knower of the Beast are alive they couldn't have fought, that's not what pre-battle bargain is for. I suppose The Dragonforged took the deal (but didn't wanted power just peace in Gransys ;) but the another problem is that no one in the entire game mentions there was yet another Dragon instance apart from Duke Edmun and Newly Arisen ones (all three being Grigori ofc).

BTW Spears were scrapped from the game not long before release I suppose. That's the most logickal conclusion ;)